Podcasts for effective science communication
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What is a podcast?
Listening on demand
Podcasting occupies a different space to radio – one that allows its producers to tell the story in their own way rather than the highly structured format demanded by a major broadcast outlet. This is commonly referred to as ‘listening on demand’ – the listener opts in, rather than switching on a radio and hearing a scheduled broadcast.
The format is also often referred to as ‘narrowcasting’ in that the audience selects to listen, and, in specialty disciplines like health, is likely to be smaller and more focused on a specific topic.
Choosing this format offers the opportunity for more freedom of expression, depth of messaging, and flexibility of time, allowing listeners to focus on the narrative.
The format also offers a more conversational and ‘human’ touch, which is critically useful in the field of science communication. This democratic approach (anyone can make one, anyone can listen) has reduced barriers to production and distribution and provides a voice and powerful platform for communicating prevention research by anyone who wants to give it a go.
Why use podcasts to communicate science?
Podcasts are an engaging format for informing and encouraging behavioural change. This mode of sharing information can also help empower listeners, making it a powerful tool to help amplify prevention research to diverse audiences.
The COVID-19 pandemic provided a positive shift in how people engage with trusted health information and podcasts were successfully employed by media, governments, and not-for-profits to communicate complex public health information, build trust in the science and combat misinformation.
Case study: The Prevention Centre’s Prevention Works podcast
At the Prevention Centre, we use our Prevention Works podcast series to demystify prevention for a general audience. In it, we discuss various issues in chronic disease prevention in a conversational style that bypasses the formal, one-way nature of journal articles and information sheets.
The podcast format helps us to also tackle wider issues that are shared with the public, including to:
Journalism techniques used in regular radio broadcasting, such as interview or conversational style format, is often used in podcasts, including Prevention Works. This also allows us to talk more broadly about a specific research topic and illustrate an issue using real-world examples, helping to improve understanding, and the ability to remember the information.
The intention of our podcast, Prevention Works, is to communicate broader issues in chronic disease prevention (often complex or wicked problems) through a more informal, personable engagement with our audiences. This allows us to include the back-story to a problem, as well as anecdotes, emotions, and personal insights, that don’t appear in other formats such as academic papers or news articles.
The podcast’s innovative and more intimate style of communication allows us to tell human-interest stories about prevention research to those who then put that research into action – that is, policy decision makers.
Pictured right: Prevention Works podcast host, Dr Gretchen Miller and assistant, Miss Molly
How do I produce a podcast?
It’s magic, right? Download a podcast. Press play. Boom. There it is. A great story told in sound. Same with radio. Turn it on, and “Voila!” It all seems so simple. It’s not.
1. Refine your idea
Once you have an idea, try to distill it down to one concise sentence to focus test on colleagues before pitching to management. Find (kind) podcasting groups on your preferred social media platform to ask questions, and have some initial listeners give you feedback before you send your podcast out into the world.
Listen to as many podcasts as possible before you start planning your own to understand what you like and what style will suit your audience, purpose and that aligns with the culture and values of your organisation.
2. Determine the format and style you will use
There is a wide range of possible styles and formats when starting out with podcasts, whether you are on a budget and record on your iPhone or are looking to produce something that sounds more professional. Determine your preferred style, tone and format and what is possible according to your budget, episode frequency, number of guests, who will host, who will advise on episode content, how tightly edited the content will be, and who will do that editing.
Some common podcast formats include:
- Interview podcasts
- Co-hosted podcasts
- Scripted non-fiction
- News recap
- Educational
- Scripted fiction.
The Prevention Centre’s podcast uses a conversational interview format. Traditionally, this is where the host/interviewer asks the interviewee questions about their expertise and encourages and leads them through their work in a structured way, so a less informed listener might follow its logic.
How long should each episode be and how often should we publish?
As a rough guide, a one-hour recording for our Prevention Works podcast will produce about a 40-minute episode that is carefully edited for sense and to remove filler words such as repeats, ‘ums’, and ‘you know’.
Keep your co-hosts and guests to a manageable number. We recommend no more than two to three people. Although more voices in the room are interesting, it can make editing, sound quality and coherence of content challenging.
3. Choose your podcast name and artwork
Since there are millions of podcasts, we suggest you search for your proposed name on several of the larger listening apps to check if it has already been used.
Your cover artwork needs to attract potential listeners’ attention and stand out in a crowded space. Podcast artwork should follow the following specifications (based on Apple’s podcast artwork requirements):
- Square image (3000×3000 pixels)
- Resolution of 72 dpi
- PNG or JPEG file types
- Colourspace RGB.
There are free online apps available to help create your podcast artwork, such as Canva, Adobe Create Cloud Express, Fiverr, 99Designs.
4. Finding and crafting each episode
What is a story?
We tell stories in our everyday lives all the time. Podcast stories about science might take a little more consideration to create, since the story is not always apparent from the academic paper or conference presentation. It may help to consider your episode in terms of a challenge – which might be the health problem itself, or how the research came to fruition.
Finding your story
At the Prevention Centre, we use the same elements that journalists employ for finding a news story: we look for an issue among our networks. We always try and align these stories with trending topics in news cycle. The story or topic is not always new. It has often been covered many times before. The challenge is to find a new angle for the story or an aspect that hasn’t yet been addressed. Ask yourself: Is this new? Is this interesting? Is this surprising? Has this been told before? What is different in this story from what has been told before?
Some of the most powerful stories are those people can relate to, the ones that create empathy with your audience. These are not usually elements explored by science communication but they are the ones that your audience are more likely to remember.
If you are focused on the latest research around a topic, dig a little deeper into the ‘so what?’. What does this mean for policy decision makers? What does this mean for my neighbour living with diabetes, and how might a policy maker think once they hear a real-life example. You can also explore:
- Who is the guest, their expertise but also themselves as a person living and working in various communities?
- What’s brought them to this research? How did this work evolve from previous work?
- What is the challenge or conflict they are addressing? Who are the main players?
- What are the factors in solving this challenge, and how does it intersect with other health challenges?
- What does the research suggest/how are they hoping to solve the problem? Who did they collaborate with?
- How grounded is this research – that is, how might you or I experience the problem as we go about our daily lives?
- What are some of the solutions, and where will they go next with this work?
Read newsletters, media articles, and other industry sources, such as our prevention headlines, as a source for stories and to better understand current issues in chronic disease prevention.
5. Preparing for interview
It is important that the narration sounds conversational and informal. It should sound like friends telling each other a story.
Write an outline of your episode
This doesn’t have to be a word-for-word script. Try building it around bullet points to improve the flow of the conversation and help you avoid rambling. How does the audience want to hear the issue unfold? Asking questions in order helps with later editing.
Our host reads the relevant research and crafts questions that she then puts in order of narrative unfolding, creating a logical flow through context, the wicked problem itself, the players in that problem, the proposed resolution of the research, and what might happen next.
She is ready to respond to what is said in the interview itself, asking supplementary questions. She will often also refer to the intersection of the current point of discussion with previous interview material, drawing connections between the issues as they are connected in real life, leading listeners back to previous episodes.
6. Choose your equipment and software
You will need to match the equipment with your podcast format depending on whether you are setting up for one-person or a three-to-four people. Since the hardware and software is frequently superseded, we recommend you research a podcast directory website or our resource list at the end of this page for the most current brands of microphones, recording software and other equipment. Ask others working in the field their advice and read up on the latest technology.
Editing has become a much easier process than it used to be, so it need not be too daunting. If you want to produce your podcasts in-house but don’t know about the equipment, it may be worth asking a professional podcast maker to set you up to start with.
Equipment you may need to consider includes:
- Podcast microphones, either dynamic or condenser, which are often USB connected to your computer
- Microphone connections, such as USB or XLR setup
- Microphone accessories, such as a stand , pop filter, boom arm, shock mount
- Headphones
- Online recording software, such as Riverside and Zoom
- Editing software, such as GarageBand, Audacity, Descript.
Avoid using Skype to record your podcast as its files are typically compressed and lower quality than other options.
7. Record for best quality
Pick a good place to record
If possible, record in a small, quiet room with lots of soft furnishings, such as curtains, rugs and carpet, as sound quality will be echo-y with hard surfaces like glass walls. It is not unheard of to interview in a walk-in wardrobe or a bedroom for this reason!
- Encourage guests to keep the microphone a handspan from, and about a 45-degree angle below their mouth
- Remove any jewellery that may create noise if you move, have a soothing hot drink or water ready for coughing or tight throat
- If you notice popping sounds, move the microphone slightly below the mouth, a couple of centimetres further away, to stop air from the mouth hitting the microphone
- Test record yourself talking at a consistent level and don’t worry about mistakes, and filler words like ‘um’ and ‘you know – you can edit these later.
Make sure the guest doesn’t overprepare. Reassure them that they know their material extremely well, and remind them you are looking for a conversational feel rather than a journal article read aloud.
8. Recording online
When recording online, our producer uses Riverside.fm (but there are many other similar platforms) which you can connect to without needing to download any software. Zoom is used as a backup in case there are issues for the guest’s technology.
I also ask guests to do a backup recording on their phone, then I decide which sounds better, use Wavelab (or Garage Band or Audacity) to line up their recording and my own, then upload these to Descript.com for transcription and text editing.
It’s a bit of labour, as I tend to cut out all silences/room noise from their recording and mine, but it leads to the best quality.
If this sounds too complicated, just go with the Riverside.fm recording, and make use of Descript’s excellent add-on called “Studio Sound’ to improve the overall audio quality.
This arena is constantly changing and becoming easier, so a bit of background research on a trusted industry platform, like, say, Transom.org can go a long way. Or just crowd source what’s the go-to of the moment!
Dr Gretchen Miller, Podcast Host and Audio Producer
9. Editing your audio: post-production
This is the most challenging part of the process and the most creative when you transform your recording into something that sounds natural but is actually tightly edited.
- Write an engaging introduction and the sign off for your podcast.
- Source some royalty-free music from Soundstripe, audio jungle, Blue Dot Sessions or Storyblocks to mix into the story either at the beginning and end or as a marker throughout the story to indicate a new part of the story or a change in voice.
- In your first pass, edit for content, be prepared to change the structure of the story and modify the script, always reflecting on the podcast’s broader intentions.
- In your second pass, focus on distractions such as ums, buts, ahhhs or simply external noise. Ask yourself if the audio contributes to the storytelling before removing it. Note sounds that communicate location or emotion, such as sighs, pauses, laughter, stuttering, or birdsong are important to keep. These are what make the audio story a different experience. They humanise the conversation, indicate place, and give it that intimacy that podcasts are so well recognised for.
- Create a list of the audio distractions to check during your second pass, noting the time stamp for content you aim to revisit. This exercise will help avoid needing to edit from start to finish multiple times.
- If you are still not happy, revisit your podcast series’ story objective. What are the main ideas you wanted to communicate or ask the listeners to understand or act on?
- Export audio file: the usual preferred format is an MP3 mastered at -16 LUFS. Note LUFS is an abbreviation for Loudness Unit Full Scale, which refers to the maximum level a system can cope with.
Keep the ums and filler words if they contribute to the conversation, it is not as black and white as removing all the ums. They can support the conversation’s rhythm by slowing down the conversation, creating suspense, and implying indecision, discomfort or thoughtfulness. Ums could even precede a change in pitch which, once removed, will change the flow of the conversation. They also give the listener time to absorb the information. In Prevention Works, we take out most of the filler words and subsitute them with a small space or a breath. Editing is a lot of work to make it sound seamless and natural!
10. Publish your podcast episode to your podcast hosting site
You will need to source a podcast hosting service, such as Spotify, Omny or buzzsprout, to host your large audio files. New hosting services spring up all the time, and some are free, or are free for a limited number of episodes. Podcast hosts will store and distribute your podcast to directories so listeners can find them. Note, once you are listed in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Google Podcasts, your podcast is in front of 95% of all podcast listeners.
Some podcast hosts also offer a trial period and other benefits such as visual soundbites, which are video grabs of your audio animated over your artwork image. These can help boost promotion of episodes on social media.
Check your podcast host sharing codes are compatible with your organisation’s website. For example, is the embed code or URL for online sharing compatible with your website platform?
How to promote your podcast
Create a communications plan to launch your podcast. You may prefer a soft launch where you publish episodes but delay promoting them until you ensure the episodes are uploading and accessible.
Frequently Asked Questions
This will depend on the quality of the podcast equipment you can afford. If you already have a computer, you can spend anywhere between $100 to a few $1000, depending on the quality of the microphone and headphones, audio interface, recording software and other gear. It may be more cost-effective to outsource your content to a professional podcast producer.
We suggest having at least three episodes produced and ready to publish before you launch, to remove the pressure of producing more episodes to a tight deadline.
Although there are few barriers to creating a podcast, the challenge is sustaining it beyond a few episodes. This requires a strong communications plan to promote the podcast. If you are in a workplace, having the support of management and communication professionals is essential for ensuring you can access the resources required and are aware of the organisation’s branding policies.
Listen to Prevention Works
Visit out Resource hub to listen in on 37 conversations with some of our nation’s top public health researchers on how we can find new ways to tackle Australia’s greatest health challenge of chronic disease.
Resources for starting out
- The Masterclass: This podcast is hosted by Louisa Lim from the Centre for Advancing Journalism at the University of
Melbourne. Available on Apple podcasts, Omny, Spotify and Audible. - Transom: This website provides resources and news articles around podcasting and also delivers a bi-weekly podcast
on audio storytelling called Sound School. - Bello Collective: This website consists of a range of articles on producing and organising your podcast team.
Podcasts that communicate science
There are thousands of examples, below are just a few to get you started:
- Prevention Works! produced by The Australian Prevention Partnership Centre
- Science Vs produced by ABC Listen
- Health Report produced by ABC Listen
- Sydney Ideas produced by The University of Sydney.
More from our Science Communication User Guide
This chapter of the User Guide is one in a series available from The Australian Prevention Partnership Centre’s website. It was prepared by the Prevention Centre’s Director of Science Communication, Ainsley Burgess and Podcast Host and Audio Producer, Dr Gretchen Miller.